Tito Jackson , 70, one of the five founding members of the beloved Motown group the Jackson 5, died on Sunday (Sept. 15) of a suspected heart attack in Gallup, NM. Billboard contributor Fred Bronson interviewed Tito over three days in 2016 for his book, The Jacksons Legacy . Check out a few excerpts from their many hours together, including Tito talking about his brothers, signing to Motown, his missed chance to pursue a career in baseball and what he believed his legacy would be.
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Before there was a Jackson 5, it was just you, Jackie and Jermaine. Did you play ang gigs as a trio?
No, we weren’t doing any gigs. It was just us singing around the house, Jackie, Jermaine and me. Then we heard Michael sing at a school function, an elementary school play, and that’s when we put him in the band. Marlon said, “me too!” Both of them has been asking. We had been telling them they were too young. It was for big boys.
Did any of your sisters ask to be a part of your group?
No, the girls hung out with each other. They were around mama all the time. The five of us worked out our harmonies, and with Michael singing songs, it started sounding even better. Father would tell us to be quiet, and our mother told him, “Joe, you need to listen to them. I think they really can sing. I think they have talent.” He would say, “Those boys don’t have any talent. Those boys can’t sing.” [She said] “No, Joe, I really think you should listen to them. They sound pretty good.” So one day, we sang for him and he was blown away. The next day when he got his paycheck, he bought all kinds of equipment. He rehearsed us every day. After school, we’d drop our books. He had the mics already set up, the amps on standby. The guitars were out already.
What do you remember about being signed to Motown?
We had heard that Motown wasn’t going to sign us because Stevie Wonder was on the label and there were a lot of laws about minors working. You could only work so long and then you had to take a break. If you are there longer than six hours, your day is over. You’ve got to go to school for an hour now. Producers hate it. With Stevie they only had one minor. There were five of us.
But that didn’t stop from Motown signing you.
We did the audition for Berry, and he was there. Suzanne de Passe was there. [Motown artist] Bobby Taylor was there and Berry was in the corner, checking it out and listening, trying to not like it. But he really enjoyed it. He wanted us to sing at Diana Ross’s party that he was giving. He told us our first four or five records were going to go to No. 1.
That party for Diana Ross was at Berry’s home in Detroit. I understand he offered you a hundred dollars to make a hole-in-one in his back yard.
He gave us the wrong iron. Some putter or something. We tore the yard up trying to do that.
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Is that the first time you met Diana Ross?
Yes. That was the first time we met any of the stars. Marvin Gaye was there and Tammi Terrell. Some of the Four Tops and some of the Temptations. It was like a family. The Motown staff was very kind to us. They treated us like children. That’s what we were. Everybody was our father and mother. They were just very nice to us. We did our performance, singing their songs to them and watching their reactions, and they seemed to really like it. They told us, “You guys are great, but remember, don’t get a big head.” They would give us little tips like that, and we looked up to them, of course. I remember going back to Indiana, bragging to all of our friends that we signed to Motown and our friends were very supportive.
Tell me about your relationships with your brothers.
Our relationships were always good because we did everything together. We hung out together. We stayed together. When we went on the road, we shared rooms. If we were going to the movies, we all went to the movies together. We made our own fun and had our little basketball team, the five of us. We also played a lot of baseball and softball.
Were you good at baseball?
That was my whole thing. I enjoyed playing the game, and I played about two years in Little League before the music took off. I could’ve done something with it if I had kept playing, but I stopped playing at a young age. I guess the music looked better to our father. Jackie was really good at baseball. But I learned when I got older that I was probably just as good, if not better. Especially if I had kept playing, because I was always trying to keep up with my oldest brother.
After three bubblegum pop songs – “I Want You Back,” “ABC” and “The Love You Save,” your fourth single was very different. Tell me about “I’ll Be There.”
I think it was a good move to show the versatility in the group, that we weren’t just about up-tempo young songs. We could deliver love songs and “I’ll Be There” was perfect. It was an adult lyric, but it sounded good for the young voice of Michael with us doing the backgrounds. We didn’t know it was going to be a single. We just recorded the songs that they gave us and we would finish an album and the company chose the songs that it felt strongly about.
What does it mean to you to have been a part of the Jackson 5?
A person comes into this world and it’s what you leave behind, I don’t know if I left enough behind, because what I have left behind is music and if you can bring happiness to some people, that’s more than most people have brought. So I look at it in that context, but it’s not everything that I can leave behind. I’m always trying to do something that’s going to help myself or help society and make myself a better person. But to be a part of the Jacksons, to have that and bring smiles to people’s faces who enjoy the music, who enjoy the image or to name a kid after one of our family members is a good feeling. It means a lot. It means that you’ve done something with your life, other than just lived a life. At the end of the day, when we get called, it’s all about what we did with our time. I still have a lot to give as do the brothers, because the music just flows through our family. I think I was put here to do music.
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