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CuriosiD: What’s the highest point in Detroit?
By Koby Levin,
2024-02-08
The city that brought you the tune “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” barely has hills, but it’s not quite as flat as you’d think .
Scott Barnett, a math instructor at Henry Ford College, became curious about Detroit’s highest point after reading an article he said alleged the city’s peak was a hill in the neighborhood where he grew up.
Was this really the highest natural point in the city? Barnett put the question to CuriosiD, a WDET podcast where listeners ask about everything Detroit.
Outlier Media teamed up with WDET to get to the bottom — or top — of the issue.
Listen to the full episode of CuriosiD here:
The short answer
We identified two spots that can claim to be the city’s highest points, both of them in northwest Detroit near M-10 (Lodge Freeway). One is near 8 Mile Road, and one is near McNichols Road.
The view from what may be the highest point in Detroit — near 8 Mile and M-10 (Lodge Freeway) — goes on for blocks. Credit: Photo credit: Koby Levin
An incongruous childhood hill
The only hill in Barnett’s childhood neighborhood wasn’t huge, but it stuck out from its otherwise flat surroundings. It’s why Barnett started thinking about the highest point in the city.
His question made its way to WDET’s CuriosiD, a program where listeners ask questions about everything Detroit. Outlier Media collaborated with WDET to find peak Detroit.
Barnett’s mom drove him to school every day, always by the same route. He still remembers the turns and the main landmark — an incongruous hill on Curtis Street.
Years later, Barnett came across an article that claimed the hill on Curtis Street was the highest point in Detroit. This was big neighborhood news. He told his childhood friends about it.
But the article was wrong — we think.
A retired teacher obsessed with high points
The search for Detroit’s highest natural point led us to a retired high school teacher from Missouri named Dennis Stewart.
In 2017, he was driving through Detroit on a road trip and decided to check out the local high point — which is how he ended up on a skeptical Detroiter’s doorstep, trying to explain why he wanted a selfie in their backyard.
“I had to talk to him for a while so they could see I was legitimate,” Stewart said. “But after they felt comfortable with me … they let me go in their backyard and stand there and take my picture.”
A Detroiter agreed to let Dennis Stewart snap this photo in their backyard, which may be the highest point in the city. “It took a bit of explaining what I was doing this for, which is sometimes hard to figure out for myself,” Stewart wrote in a post on the website peakbagger.com. Credit: Photo credit: Courtesy of Dennis Stewart
Surprise beachfront property
Mike Wilczynski, a retired geologist, did some research on Detroit’s true high point and determined that there are at least two possible peak Detroit points close to the Lodge Freeway — one at 8 Mile Road, where Stewart ended up, and one at McNichols Road, not far from Barnett’s childhood neighborhood.
Wilczynski is not surprised that the high point is on the north side of the city. Toward the end of the last Ice Age, maybe 10,000 years ago, melting glaciers left behind a layer of rock and soil in the northern half of Detroit. The city may look flat, but it’s on a slight slope, rising almost 100 feet between the Detroit River and 8 Mile.
Wilczynski and I agree to find the real Detroit high point for ourselves. He promises to bring some equipment to take measurements.
Turns out he means an iPhone app that doesn’t give very precise elevation measurements.
But as we approach the coordinates Stewart visited, we look down a Detroit street with familiar scenery — neat brick bungalows, a park with a basketball court — and see what is undeniably a hill.
At the top, Wilczynski’s phone tells us we’re at about 675 feet above sea level — plus or minus 18 feet. We can see for blocks.
Wilczynski thinks this hill began as a beach.
Detroit was underwater about 14,000 years ago, he explains. Lake St. Clair and Lake Erie were one mega lake. Every time the water receded, exposing the future city, it left behind a shoreline, a ridge of sand and rock.
People living here may not realize it, but they’ve got beachfront property.
As we stand there, a neighbor steps out onto his driveway. Wilczynski tries to flag him down, but he’s not inclined to chat, and he’s definitely not impressed with the news that he may live at the highest point in Detroit.
“Useless information,” he said. “It doesn’t put money in my pocket.”
It feels like we’re inching closer to the truth, but the quest continues. We hop back in the car to investigate the other high point.
The number to beat is 675 feet, plus or minus 18 feet. The new location is next to a school, and it’s much flatter, no hill in sight.
We’re in a quandary, Wilczynski said.
Scott Barnett, a math instructor at Henry Ford College, wondered if a mound in his childhood neighborhood was the highest point in Detroit. Credit: Photo credit: Courtesy of Scott Barnett
“How do you determine the highest spot in an area like Detroit where it’s relatively flat? You know, you’d have to … use much more accurate GPS.”
In other words, we can’t quite answer Barnett’s question. We think Detroit has at least two roughly equivalent high points, and we’re pretty sure that neither one is his childhood hill. But we’d need fancy technology to be absolutely sure.
Barnett says that’s all right with him.
“I still love Detroit,” he said. “And I’m happy to learn more about it. Apparently, my memory may not be correct about the significance of that one hill. That’s OK.”
Meet the listener
Scott Barnett is a math instructor at Henry Ford College. He grew up in the Bagley neighborhood in northwest Detroit, where he noticed an unusual large mound on Curtis Street. “Everything around it is so flat, and yet you have this hill for no apparent reason,” he said.
Laura Herberg contributed to this story and produced the audio version for WDET.
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