‘I Eat No For Breakfast!’ Host Asks Kamala Harris What It Means To Be ‘The First Black Woman As President’

Vice President Kamala Harris told podcast host and former NBA star Matt Barnes “I eat no for breakfast!” when he asked what it means “to be the first Black woman as president.”

Barnes and co-host Stephen Jackson scored a 45-minute-plus interview that taped last week for the All The Smoke podcast.

The interview dropped Monday, and wrapped up with a final question that made Harris knock on wood — and dispense advice to those who may follow her:

MATT BARNES: Last question. As someone who’s broke a ton of barriers throughout your journey, and your journeys continue to elevate, what does it mean to you to be the first woman president, but the first Black woman as president?

VP KAMALA HARRIS: Well, not there yet. Knock wood!

My mother had many sayings and one of them is, she would say to me calmly, “You may be the first to do many things. Make sure you’re not the last.”

And I take that so very seriously. I’ve had the good fortune to mentor a lot of people along the way, including to this day.

For me, it’s about one, understand the shoulders I stand on. We talk about a Shirley Chisholm and then so many people who are alive, who have mentored me and held me up.

And I just I feel so strongly that. You know, each one. Pull one. You got to leave that door open more than it was when you walked in.

And that’s what it means to me, listen I feel a great sense of responsibility. I mean, you talk about your daughter and what she’s doing at school. I look at our sons. I look at I mean, I feel a sense of responsibility to hopefully remind them that you should never hear “No.”

You should never hear “Nobody like you has done this before” or it’s not your time” or “they’re not ready.”

Like, don’t hear that. Don’t hear that. I eat “no” for breakfast! That’s my saying. I eat “no” for breakfast!

MATT BARNES: You got to see it to believe it. We talked about that growinging up in the community.

VP KAMALA HARRIS: You do!

MATT BARNES: You got to see it to believe it. We can. We’ve seen Obama do what he does, and now we have an opportunity to possibly see you and I, to me, you know, five, six daughters and, you know, have I have a daughter just to be able to see it means so much.

VP KAMALA HARRIS: Right, Because there’s so many — it’s sadly but there’s so much good in the world. So let’s start with that. And there’s so many positive messages.

And there are some that are not positive. And that would suggest to our kids, to our young people, that they’re alone. That they don’t have champions. That they don’t belong, that they’re not entitled to, that they don’t have rights, including the right to be a leader.

And I hope that in my career and in my work, to the extent I am able to help people reject that, that I can do that.

Watch above via the All The Smoke podcast.