Velvet Revolver's Dave Kushner on making a living as a musician away from the limelight

Dave Kushner was the least well-known member of Velvet Revolver when they emerged in a flaming ball of hype 2002, but he was also the unsung guitar hero that helped them deliver on their promise. When the band disintegrated by 2008, Kushner didn't stop being a working musician, and his willingness and ability to adapt is something to be study for anyone wanting a lasting career in this field.

Kushner has always been willing to do what it takes. As he tells Rob's School Of Music in a new interview, he got a job in the LA rehearsal studio Velvet Revolver were writing in while looking for a singer because he needed to make ends meet. And when VR bandmates Slash , Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and Scott Weiland went on to other projects, he did that again.

"My musical career was not like Guns 'N' Roses – I wasn't the guy that got into a band when I was like 19 and then the band was massive," reflects Kushner on his story so far, explaining how he's often gone back to a job between stints in bands over the years. "The nuggets that I've gotten and acquired along the way are it's all about a mindset of service. It really is that – how am I going to help the band, how am I going to help these guys get to the finish line? Am I trying to get something or am I trying to give something?"

While the lesson of thinking about what you can do for others in a musical project is valuable, what happens when you find yourself out of projects? Kushner says there are many avenues open for musicians playing, writing and recording outside of bands.

"There's a lot of different ways," he explains. "There's library [music]. Reality shows usually use a bunch of library music. I've written theme songs for reality shows and I've written theme songs for regular shows. I just did a thing with Fox Sports where I wrote these specific one-and-a-half-minute pieces of music where they were like, 'We want something like this'. It was generic ins the sense that you split it up and you make stems so they can put it together and leave stuff out if they want but it just lives in their library. And that stuff has paid me on the backend.

"There's that term 'mailbox money'", adds Kushner. "Where you just do it and you get paid for it, and you go along with your life and then all of sudden you get this nice surprise [royalty cheque] in the mailbox. Now it's on your phone as a direct deposit but it used to be the mailbox and you'd check and it'd be, 'What?! Three grand for those things I wrote?'

"There are songs for commercials, and I've done that too. I did a Mountain Dew commercial. There's writing original songs and then even if you're an unknown artist, getting those placed in indie music. There really are so many different ways that you can find to make money playing music."

Kushner also touched on his concerns for the future in this area of the industry with the rapid development of AI-generated library music.

"I get a little nervous because of AI and I figure they're gonna take some of the lower, less important songs. 'We need an inspirational rock 30-second track for this healthcare commercial, it would be easier to do it with AI than have someone write it'.

The future is uncertain then, but the key point seems to be diversification and consistency – keep creating music for different revenue streams. And to adapt.

"You have to be resourceful," advises Kushner. "Because you're an artist. Any artist, whether it's painting, acting or whether it's music, you have to be resourceful because it's not steady. Unless you're in Guns N' Roses or you get that gig where you become Ryan Gosling.

"If you're working, and as you get older, you can't just sit on the one thing. It's like a moving target… you can't coast uphill."

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