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What to watch in the ABC Harris-Trump debate
By Lisa Desjardins,
2 days ago
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The presidential race is as unbelievably close. Latest polls show it being neck and neck.
The two candidates have a single major national event together on the calendar before Election Day: 90 minutes of debate Tuesday night, hosted by ABC in Philadelphia.
Let’s look at the dynamics here, with four things to watch.
1. The prep
The Trump campaign’s MAGA motto says something about his world view. But it ignores one of the former president’s most consistent characteristics: He flouts tradition and instead is driven by his instincts. Trump’s motor is a self-enforcing belief in his own abilities, putting that above any other piece of potential preparation. Those instincts reject typical, detailed preparation.
Preparations are made inside the Pennsylvania Convention Center one day before the presidential debate between the two major presidential candidates. Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Thus, per campaign sources, the former president is not conducting mock debates. Rather, he has been holding “policy time,” something a source told us is a bit of an inside joke that means getting ready for the debate. Specifically, the team sits with Trump, usually at a table, and goes through his policy positions and those of Vice President Kamala Harris.
Senior advisor Jason Miller, who is known for his communications and media work, is heading up the prep, we are told. The visuals have been simple, usually a small team at a table, with Trump in a chair.
Former Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is among those helping Trump. A senior campaign official told us Gabbard is there for insight and to make sure there is a woman in the room.
“You can’t do a [debate] discussion when up against Harris with seven guys,” they said.
We were also told that Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., is a key adviser in Trump’s debate prep, asking the former president sharp questions. Gaetz has said Trump “does not do debate prep.”
Meanwhile, Harris has been in a kind of debate prep academy. Per reporting by The New York Times and others, she has been practicing on a mock debate set with television lighting and an adviser dressed as and playing the role of Trump.
For Democrats, the concern is the opposite: that Harris could over prepare and either sound scripted or struggle to relay a study session-like slate of information.
2. The first 30 minutes
There is animated debate over debates themselves — whether and when they matter. But many agree that the start of these debates is the most critical window.
Two reasons: This is when the largest audience is watching and when that audience is forming its first (and likely second) impressions.
In the 2020 election season, The New York Times tracked viewer habits across debates and showed that the peak audience hit around 15 to 20 minutes into the debate and declined after 40 minutes.
For Tuesday’s debate, move the first-impression-factor dial up to “11.” This will not only be the first time Harris and Trump debate, it will be the first time the two of them meet.
(Recall the conversation around Sarah Palin and Biden’s initial handshake, as our Gwen Ifill moderated, in 2008?)
In addition, it is Harris’ first time debating on the presidential stage during the general election. And it will be her first debate since the 2020 election. Trump has not had many more in that time, but the relatively recent one was a clear win for him. (And, ultimately, for Harris.)
In the 2024 Biden-Trump debate in June, the first 30 minutes were critical. By that point, it was clear that Biden was not performing well. About 21 minutes into the debate, Trump quipped, “I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said either.”
The impression stuck and ultimately helped topple Biden’s reelection attempt.
3. Listen for policy
Both candidates have made a series of pledges and promises, but each also has left broad gaps in explaining specifically how they would achieve their goals.
One example: Trump has given few details on his mass deportation plan for undocumented immigrants, other than that he would delegate it to local law enforcement and the national guard. It is not clear how he would fund this, precisely which people would be first deported and what guidelines would determine how law enforcement identifies someone to be deported.
Watch the video in the player above.
Another example: Harris has not yet outlined a comprehensive immigration policy. She has said she continues to back the bipartisan immigration bill that was frozen in Congress. But, while substantive, that bill deals largely with asylum and immediate needs at the border. A host of other issues remain in the immigration system, including visas for agricultural workers and other legal immigration categories.
4. Watch for anyone losing their cool
In this era of politics driven by emotion and personality, the most influential factor may be the intangible sense of who is the most composed.
Sources in the Trump campaign believe their candidate’s calm in the Biden debate was critical to making Biden’s own problems stand out. The question is whether Trump can remain “calm Trump” through 90 minutes with Harris.
Harris may not have as much national debate experience as Trump, but she is a skilled prosecutor who spent years analyzing adversaries’ pressure points in rhetorical standoff situations. (An early senatorial standout moment came in her questioning of now Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.)
Each side ardently hopes their candidate keeps their cool and looks in command, while baiting the other to overreact.
With only one microphone turned on at a time — that of the person answering the question — don’t just listen to determine who is more poised. Watch body language.
Sometimes on my second watch of a debate, I will do it largely with the sound off, and it always gives me at least a grain of new perspective.
This is good news if you get tired of listening to the debate at any point. Turn down the volume. You may learn even more.
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