Trump confidant Roger Stone caught on tape talking about Mar-a-Lago judge and the real reason trial delays matter

Roger Stone (left) in a video recorded by Lauren Windsor, (right) Judge Aileen Cannon (U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida)

A progressive journalist who recently posed as a conservative to record Justice Samuel Alito and his wife at a June dinner has since posted video and audio of mid-March encounters at Mar-a-Lago between her, a likewise undercover colleague, and pardoned Donald Trump confidant and noted “ dirty trickster ” Roger Stone.

At the start of the video, Lauren Windsor of The Undercurrent presents herself as a true believer who showed up at a Catholic Prayer for Trump event seeking a photo op with Stone. From there, Windsor starts asking Stone for his thoughts about the coming presidential election.

While Stone said it was too early to tell who will win, and while he stated that President Joe Biden can’t win in 2024, he added that the election “can be stolen again.”

Highlighting “overconfidence” as “one of giant problems right now among our own people,” Stone said “we’re working on it,” it being the prevention of a repeat of 2020.

“We’re working on it: lawyers, judges, technology,” he said.

“You’re doing the Lord’s work,” Windsor concluded her portion of the video.

That’s when the video started playing audio of a conversation Windsor’s colleague Ally Sammarco had with Stone earlier that March 19th.

Claiming the 2020 was stolen and vowing to take steps to prevent that from happening again, Stone as of mid-March, which was before Trump was convicted of 34 felony counts in his Manhattan hush-money trial, said that “we are beating them as of today” — that is, defeating the ruthless left.

Then Stone started talking more about Trump’s four criminal cases — the Georgia RICO case, the Mar-a-Lago Espionage Act case, the Washington, D.C.-based Jan. 6 case , and the hush-money trial .

Specifically, Stone saw U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon, the Trump-appointed judge in the Mar-a-Lago prosecution, as “on the verge” of tossing the willful retention of national defense information and conspiracy to obstruct counts Trump faces in that jurisdiction. He also revealed the purpose of serial trial delays, which Trump’s defense lawyers have largely achieved across the cases (though they must now work towards successfully appealing the hush-money convictions).

“The president’s trial in Georgia is falling apart. I think the judge is on the verge of dismissing the charges against him in Florida. They’re delayed in New York City and now they’re now delayed in Washington,” Stone said. “So it’s not clear that they can have a trial before the election, which is the absolute key to [them] being able to convince people that the reason we lost was ’cause of the trial.”

That last line proposed as of March that if there was a trial in 2024 and if Trump was convicted and if Trump went on to lose the 2024 election, then Democratic opponents will be able to point to his convictions as the reason he lost to Biden, not some plot to steal the election for a second time.

“Right now if they steal it, people’ll say ‘Well, well that’s not possible. Trump was leading in all the polls,'” Stone said. “They want to try him, suck up his money, suck up his time, and create the reason why their theft is plausible. You see?”

In other words, from the apparent Trumpworld perspective, keeping trials on hold is as much about preventing Democrats from being able to counter future stolen election claims as it is keeping Trump out of prison.

What about stopping voter fraud and “ballot harvesting,” Sammarco asked.

“In some states it’ll be easier to stop. In other places, it won’t,” Stone assessed, before essentially suggesting he has a lawyer and a judge on speed dial.

“But at least this time when they do it, you have a lawyer and a judge, his home phone number standing by so you can stop it,” he said. “We made no preparations last time, none.”

When Sammarco claimed she was at Jan. 6 and was prepared to return to the Capitol again in service of Trump, Stone cautioned “that may not be necessary.”

“There are technical, legal steps that we have to take to try to have a more honest election,” he said.

“We’re not there yet, but there are things that can be done,” Stone continued, floating “changes in state law” (presumably in key states like Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada), “real time voter list monitoring, going to court as we just did to challenge some of the vote laws.”

“We should be suing in half a dozen places,” Stone continued. “I mean, we’re finally now on an offensive footing.”

“Remember, the Republican National Committee raised $200 million, and they didn’t spend any of it to try to get cleaner elections or to look at what happened last time,” he pointed out.

“Don’t be discouraged, we’re gonna win,” Stone concluded.

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